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Although the ATSF "Big" domes and the UP dome fleet never came under Amtrak ownership, both sets of cars actually operated under short term lease in the first month or so on Amtrak trains operated by ATSF and UP respectively until other cars could be substituted.

Amtrak eventually "owned" a total of 111 of the domes built. At Inception, they purchased 95 domes - 80 of them from BN, which was the entire BN fleet (CB&Q-43, GN-17, NP-16, SP&S-3, WP-1(via CB&Q)). The other 15 were 6 from AT&SF, 2 from B&O, 3 ex C&O(from SCL), and 4 ex WABASH(from N&W).

Additional purchases were 4 Milwaukee "Super Domes" in 1972, 5 SP domes in 1972 and 1973 (they had been leased at inception), 1 ex C&O dome from Autoliner Corp in April 1974 after a lease in 1972-73, 3 domes from D&RGW after the "RGZ" terminated in July 1983, and finally 3 more Milwaukee "Super Domes" in 1990 after Princess Tours abandoned the "California Sun Express".

Some domes never saw service and were scrapped without ever getting to Amtrak paint, but the majority served for a period and then were sold off. The last 3 "short" domes were sold to the Alaska RR in July 1999, and as of the year 2000, only the single CB&Q and two GN full dome lounges still operated in Amtrak livery (ex MILW 53 "Mt. Mitchell" also operates on the "Piedmont" in Amtrak colors, but is owned by NCDOT). During 9/2001 the CB&Q and one of the GN full dome lounges were sold to American Orient Express, leaving only 10031 (ex GN 1391 "Ocean View") running on Amtrak.

Also, during the early years Amtrak "mandated" that any PV moving in an Amtrak operated train had to be in Amtrak colors. An example shown here is WP 882 "Silver Planet" (never owned by Amtrak) operating for Los Angeles County in Amtrak operated commuter service as the LA-108 "San Fernando".

The numbering scheme applied by Amtrak referenced different types and sources of the cars - i.e. the ATSF cars were 935x, GN/CBQ full domes 936x, SP domes 937x, etc. Observations, lounges, sleepers, etc got broken up into various subsets. Coaches were numbered based on capacity - i.e. 940x were 40 seat CBQ cars, 942x were B&O 42 seaters, 944x thru 948x (they had too many cars) were 46 seat coaches of DRGW, CBQ, GN, SP&S & NP, 950x cars were CBQ 50 seaters, 954x were 54 seat CBQ cars, and 956x were Wabash 56 seat coaches.

Listed below is the Amtrak #, followed by original railroad and # and current status

The Amtrak number is a photo link of the car in Amtrak livery (if available). The second link (original car number) is a link to history of the car and other photos. If the current owner has a separate page, that is linked also. NOTE: this page often gets overlooked for updating when the cars change owners. If you spot a current owner error, please notify me at web_lurkerATwebtv.net.

Where Amtrak used duplicate numbers, the number is followed by a (1) or (2). Also, the date shown is scrap or retire date, not the date the new owner (if applicable) acquired the car.

ALSO NOTE THAT IF YOU CANNOT LOCATE A NUMBER IN THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS LISTED BELOW, LOOK IN THE "RENUMBERING" THAT FOLLOWS

ORIGINAL NUMBERS
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920 series - C&O sleepers


9200 C&O 1850 - Moonlight Dome - 10/77 - Promontory chapter NRHS
9201 C&O 1851 - Starlight Dome - 10/81 - Paul McKeehan
9202 C&O 1852 - Sunlight Dome - 10/77 - Katie Schultz - at ITA for rebuild


921 series - NP sleepers


9210 CBQ 305 - 9/93 - Sierra Hotel Inc - stored at Monad
9211 SPS 306 - 10/85 - Ansco Ski Train
9212 NP 309 - 3/78 - Inland Pacific Rail
9213 NP 310 - 5/73 - Orford Express
9214 NP 313 - 1/93 - Inland Pacific Rail


922 series - NP "lounge in the sky" sleepers


9220 NP 307 - 3/82 - ITA to Les Kasten
9221 NP 308 - 11/77 - scrapped
9222 NP 311 - 9/93 - Monad Rail Equipment
9223 NP 312 - 5/93 - Virginia City Rail
9224 NP 314 - 1978 - Southern Furniture
9225 CBQ 304 - 9/85 - Dave Varilek


925 series - CZ observations


9250 CBQ 375 - Silver Horizon - 9/85 - Maricopa AZ station
9251 CBQ 376 - Silver Penthouse - 5/93 - BNSF 21
9252 CBQ 377 - Silver Solarium - 4/78 - Rail Journeys West/Roy Wullich
9253 CBQ 378 - Silver Lookout - 5/80 - Dirk Lenthe


930 series - TZ observations
(also see renumbers at end)


9300(1) CBQ 360 - Silver View - 10/76 - Mike Abernethy
9301(1) CBQ 361 - Silver Vista - 10/76 - Southern Furniture


931 series - Wabash observation
(also see renumbers at end)


9310(1) WAB 1601 1985 - Don Williams


932 series - KCZ observations


9320 CBQ 365 - Silver Terrace - 9/85 - Branson Scenic
9321 CBQ 366 - Silver Tower - 9/85 - Mike Abernethy - at ITA - f/s 9/2000


933 series - DZ observations


9330 CBQ 235 - Silver Chateau - 1/77 - scrapped
9331 CBQ 236 - Silver Veranda - 5/93 - BNSF 20


935 series - ATSF lounges


9350 ATSF 500 - 19?? - BC Rail Pacific Starlight "Twilight" - to Ontario Northland
9351 ATSF 501 - 3/84 - Spirit of Wash Dinner Train
9352 ATSF 502 - 1982 - Santa Fe Southern
9353 ATSF 503 - 1981 - California Rail Tours
9354 ATSF 504 - 19?? - Tennessee Central (lease) to Arizona Railroad Museum
9355 ATSF 505 - 1981 - Pacific Loco Assn



936 series - GN lounges


9360 GN 1390 - Glacier View - 4/81 - BNSF 30
9361 GN 1391 - Ocean View - renumbered 9300(2)
9362 GN 1392 - Mountain View - renumbered 9301(2)
9363 GN 1393 - Lake View - 2/82 - scrapped
9364 GN 1394 - Prarie View - 5/93 - Westours "Deshka"
9365 CBQ 1395 - River View - renumbered 9302


937 series - SP lounges


9370 SP 3601 - 3/77 - scrapped
9371 SP 3602 - 11/82 - Golden Gate RR Museum
9372 SP 3603 - 8/81 - Panama Railway "Rio Chagres"
9373 SP 3604 - 1981 - Minnesota Zephyr Dinner Train
9374 SP 3605 - 1981 - Canon City & Royal Gorge


938 series - MILW lounges & C&O obs-lounge


9380 MILW 55 - 1977 - Blue Mtn & Reading (stored)
9381 MILW 57 - 1978 - BC Rail Pacific Starlight "Stardust" - to Ontario Northland
9382 MILW 58 - 1977 - AOE (not in use-for sale)
9383 MILW 59 - 9/78 - Spirit of Washington Dinner Train
9384 C&O 1877 - 1994 - AOE (at ITA awaiting rebuild/for sale)


940 series - CBQ 40 seat coaches
(also see renumbers at end)


9400(1) CBQ 4709 - Silver Castle - 10/77 Branson Scenic
9401(1) CBQ 4714 - Silver Dome - 9/76 - Mad River & NKP Museum


942 series - B&O 42 seat coaches


9420 B&O 5550 - High Dome - 11/75 - scrapped
9421 B&O 5551 - Sky Dome - 8/76 - Natl Museum ot Transport St Louis



944 thru 948 series - 46 seat coaches


9446 DRGW 1106 - Silver Colt - 2/84 - GCRY
9447 DRGW 1107 - Silver Mustang - 2/84 - Jon Clark
9448 DRGW 1108 - Silver Pony - 2/84 - GCRY (parts car)
9450 CBQ 4716 - Silver Bridle - 2/84 - Mt Dora RR Eustis FL
9451 CBQ 4717 - Silver Lodge - 2/84 - Feather River Rail Society Portola CA
9452 CBQ 4718 - 7/84 - Silver Lariat - Burt Hermey
9453 CBQ 4719 - Silver Ranch - 7/81 - BNSF 22
9454 CBQ 4720 - Silver Rifle - 11/84 - Golden Gate RR Museum
9455 CBQ 4721 - Silver Saddle - 7/81 - scrapped
9456 CBQ 4722 - Silver Stirrup - 2/84 - GCRY
9457 CBQ 4735 - Silver Buckle - 5/93 - John Caestecker
9458 CBQ 4736 - Silver Brand - 5/93 - Aberdeen Carolina & Western RR
9460 GN 1320 - 1985 - Robert Moen
9461 GN 1321 - 5/79 - scrapped
9462 GN 1322 - 11/75 - scrapped
9463 GN 1323 - 1985 - Dirk Lenthe/Algoma Central
9464 GN 1324 - 10/77 - Dave Varilek
9465 GN 1325 - renumbered 9409
9466 GN 1326 - 5/93 - Pete Messina/GCRY lease
9467 GN 1327 - 5/93 - Doug McGill Indiana
9468 GN 1328 - 10/77 - scrapped
9469 GN 1329 - 5/93 - Conway Scenic
9470 GN 1330 - 5/93 - Spencer & Ames
9471 GN 1331 - renumbered 9410
9472 SPS 1332 - 11/87 - VIA (stored) - to Gateway
9473 CBQ 1333 - 5/93 - PENNVIA Private Railcars
9474 CBQ 1334 - 1987 - VIA (stored) - to Gateway
9475 CBQ 1335 - renumbered 9411
9476 NP 549 - 1992 - Inland Pacific Rail
9477 NP 550 - renumbered 9407
9478 NP 551 - renumbered 9400(2)
9479 NP 552 - renumbered 9401(2)
9480 NP 553 - renumbered 9402
9481 NP 554 - renumbered 9405(2)
9482 NP 555 - renumbered 9403
9483 NP 556 - renumbered 9404
9484 CBQ 557 - renumbered 9405(1)
9485 CBQ 558 - renumbered 9406
9486 SPS 559 - renumbered 9408



950 series - CBQ 50 seat coaches


9500 CBQ 4723 - Silver Bluff - 8/83 - scrapped
9501 CBQ 4724 - Silver Glade - 9/78 - scrapped


954 series - CBQ 54 seat coaches


9540 CBQ 4725 - Silver Island - 10/81 - Branson Scenic
9541 CBQ 4726 - Silver River - 9/78 - VIA (stored)
9542 CBQ 4727 - Silver Stream - 8/83 - Mike Abernethy
9543 CBQ 4728 - Silver Wave - 11/75 - scrapped
9544 CBQ 4729 - Silver Scene - 12/83 - Phil Sheridan
9545 CBQ 4730 - Silver Vision - 9/84 - Mike Abernethy


956 series - Wabash 56 seat coaches


9560 WAB 200 - 1985 - Tom Hazlett Novato CA
9561 WAB 201 - 5/93 - Don Williams
9562 WAB 202 - 5/93 - Don Williams


980 series - KCZ buffets


9800 CBQ 320 - Silver Garden - 10/77 - Branson Scenic
9801 CBQ 321 - Silver Patio - 10/81 - VIA (stored) - to Gateway


981 series - CZ buffets


9810 CBQ 250 - Silver Club - 10/81 - Dirk Lenthe
9811 CBQ 251 - 10/81 - Silver Lounge - Sierra Hotel Inc
9812 CBQ 252(2)/ex WP 831 - 1983 - Silver Chalet - Quad Graphics
9813 CBQ 253 - Silver Cup - 10/81 - Les Kasten
9814 CBQ 254 - Silver Kettle - 10/81 - VIA (stored) - to Gateway


RENUMBERED CARS
=================


930 series - HEP of GN lounges


9300(2) GN 1391 - Ocean View (HEP of 9361)(auto train) - renumbered 10031
9301(2) GN 1392 - Mountain View (HEP of 9362)(auto train) - renumbered 10030
9302 CBQ 1395 - River View (HEP of 9365)(auto train) - 9/01 - American Orient Express "Copper Canyon"


931 series - 1990 purchases from Princess


9310(2) MILW 50 (HEP) - Jasper(auto train) - 12/95 - Westours - to San Luis & Rio Grande
9311 MILW 52 (HEP) - Columbia(auto train) - 12/95 - Napa Valley Wine Train
9312 MILW 56 (HEP) - Fraser(auto train) - 1996 - Westours - to San Luis & Rio Grande


940 thru 941 series - coach HEP conversions


9400(2) NP 551 (HEP of 9478) - 5/95 - Nashville Eastern RR (lease from Art Cushman)
9401(2) NP 552 (HEP of 9479) - 1996 - Montana Rail Link
9402 NP 553 (HEP of 9480) - 1996 - Montana Rail Link
9403 NP 555 (HEP of 9482) - 7/99 - Alaska RR
9404NP 556 (HEP of 9483)(auto train) - 7/99 - Alaska RR
9405(1) CBQ 557 (HEP of 9484) - 5/93 - Inland Pacific Rail (conversion stopped - NP 554 used)
9405(2) NP 554 (HEP of 9481) - 1996 - GCRY
9406 CBQ 558 (HEP of 9485) - 199? - Tom McOwen
9407 NP 550 (HEP of 9477)(auto train) - 5/95 - Phil Sheridan
9408 SPS 559 (HEP of 9486) - 7/99 - Alaska RR
9409 GN 1325 (HEP of 9465)(auto train) - 1/96 - AOE - to CN for CN/IC business train
9410 GN 1331 (HEP of 9471) - 1995 - Phil Sheridan - to Cuyahoga Scenic RR
9411 CBQ 1335 (HEP of 9475) - 10/94 - ITA to Les Kasten (for sale)


1003 series - GN lounge rebuilds


10030 GN 1392 - Mountain View (was 9301 HEP of 9362) - 9/01 - American Orient Express "New Orleans"
10031 GN 1391 - Ocean View (was 9300 HEP of 9361) - last dome remaining in Amtrak service.


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